Rock music!

[Kaktusen]

So I felt that we needed some thread with rockmusic discussion (also metal ofcourse). And what should I do when I feel like that? I create this thread.
So what should we do in this thread? We discuss rock music, all from favorite bands to what's the best drummer to what guitar you got. I think you get the idea but before you write anything I just want you to follow these rules:

*No hip hop or pop, or any other genre in this thread.

*Let everybody have their own musictaste, you can't tell somebody that they can't listen to some band because you don't like it.

*Don't just say your favorite bands or so but discuss different bands and stuff since we allready got other threads for "what's ur favorite band?".

*Don't go offtopic for god sake!!!


Anyway, since it's quite hard to start a discussion from nothing i'll give you some of my latest thoughts about music lately, so please send some comments so this thread will start.

I kinda think it's cool to have a great rockband like audioslave doing the 007 song, hopefully it will be good to, afterall audioslave is my alltime favorite band. :yeah:

The singer for tool (maynard) did test sing for alice in chains, he sounded better then layne staley if you ask me. But still the band choosed another singer, why?!?! :o

The bionicle song made by AIK is so good song, I don't think lego should be allowed to have this kind of good theme songs! :/

[Tsumie-kun]

I think that everyone who listen to rock should try and listen to any j-rock band. For example, MUCC, Girugamesh, Soroban and so on.

[Kaktusen]

Hmm.. I don't really like jrock (japanese rock) but some songs with dir en grey can be good. Also the video for obscure rocks! :happy:

[Tsumie-kun]

I don't really like Dir en Grey, but I guess that's most because I come and think about what most of that kind of j-rock syle bands do on-stage, and that is creepy... ;o

[Kaktusen]

haha yes, but visualkey sucks if you ask me, and that allmost every jrocker looks like a girl doesn't make it better. I mean look at the guitarist of an cafe? come on. :rolleyes:

[Tsumie-kun]

EXACTLY!!1 Visual Kei bands are pretty, euh... xD

http://images.hamsterpaj.net/images/photoalbums/images_501/500690_full.jpg

Like that, for example. If you weren't able to see the difference, I'm sure most of the peoples would think that those two are girls, but they're not >.<

The only "good" thing about Visual Kei might be the clothes, since SOME of them are quite nice (Not those wich are god damn tight and such).

[Kaktusen]

Okey, enough about jrock at the moment, you play some guitar? I just learned allmost whole intro for dance of death with iron maiden, only allmost whole since it needs 2guitars :happy:

[Tsumie-kun]

Nope, I don't play any instrument at all >.< I'd like to try out bass(guitar) or drums, but I suck at playing instruments xD When I play guitar at school, I only hurt my fingers >.<

[Kaktusen]

Nope, I don't play any instrument at all >.< I'd like to try out bass(guitar) or drums, but I suck at playing instruments xD When I play guitar at school, I only hurt my fingers >.<
yeah, I notice everybody else also got major pain in their fingers when they are playing guitar, but that's something you get over. Allmost like muslims get hard skinn in their forhead. :happy:

What you think about that audioslave is making the james bond song? I think that's really cool :yeah:

[Tsumie-kun]

Actually, I've never heard that song =O -Feels stupid- xP But sure, it's god damn cool o.o

[Kaktusen]

Actually, I've never heard that song =O -Feels stupid- xP But sure, it's god damn cool o.o
Have you ever heard any of soundgarden or ratm? :o

[Tsumie-kun]

Actually, I've never heard that song =O -Feels stupid- xP But sure, it's god damn cool o.o
Have you ever heard any of soundgarden or ratm? :o
Nope, none xD I'm sorry!!1

[Kaktusen]

then do so, download some songs or watch at youtube. Both are really well known bands from the 90's.

And everybody else? write something? we gotta get this thread running :happy:

[Forumtroll]

Heavy Metal is teh ownage.

Dimmu Borgir.
Children of Bodom.
In Flames.
Ministry.
Lamb of God.

[Kaktusen]

Heavy metall is not allways good, I prefer softer music because I don't really like growl, but some bands can be good. Dark tranquility for instance is a really good band, though they are not that heavy.
I prefer power metal before heavy metal. :happy:

[Saint Louis]

Heavy metall is not allways good, I prefer softer music because I don't really like growl, but some bands can be good. Dark tranquility for instance is a really good band, though they are not that heavy.
I prefer power metal before heavy metal. :happy:
True dat, bro.

:p i like some heavy metal though... not a lot but there is some occasions. Classical rock is my favorite, Alternative/punk are also great.

[Aapro]

As i lay dying Pwns

[Stevie]

LO/L!!!

You guys even know what heavy metal is?

1. Heavy Metal does not contain any growl.

2."Heavy Metal is teh ownage.

Dimmu Borgir.
Children of Bodom.
In Flames.
Ministry.
Lamb of God.
"

Of those bands none is heavy metal.

[Bloodlord]

@the helsingborgare (HipStiff): Hail!


I mostly dig death and black metal. Brutal shit.

[Beex]

Why rock and metal and no other kind of rock?

[Forumtroll]

LO/L!!!

You guys even know what heavy metal is?

1. Heavy Metal does not contain any growl.

2."Heavy Metal is teh ownage.

Dimmu Borgir.
Children of Bodom.
In Flames.
Ministry.
Lamb of God.
"

Of those bands none is heavy metal.
1st. You know, you can't really say which is which.
2nd. I didn't say that they were Heavy Metal.

[Kaktusen]

Why rock and metal and no other kind of rock?
genres like punk and alternative goes into rock. Metal is actually also a genre of rock ;)

It's not completely right that all heavy metal band doesn't contain growl. But thrash and power metal is another thing :happy:

[Stern]

I'm more of an indie person, I don't mind other genres of music, rock music is also good, but heavy metal? Naah.

[Kaktusen]

I'm more of an indie person, I don't mind other genres of music, rock music is also good, but heavy metal? Naah.
You maybe like the cranberries and some of chris cornells work? :happy:

[Stern]

I'm more of an indie person, I don't mind other genres of music, rock music is also good, but heavy metal? Naah.
You maybe like the cranberries and some of chris cornells work? :happy:
Neither, lol.

[Danne Weman]

I'm more of an indie person, I don't mind other genres of music, rock music is also good, but heavy metal? Naah.
Same here. I do like some of the "heavy metal" bands from the 70s, like Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin, and I also like some of the more alternative bands from the latter years, like Rage Against the Machine etc, that's because I admire their creativity and musical ability. I also like a few grunge bands like Alice in Chains and Nirvana, but I'm mostly into the whole pop/rock kind of music.

[Kaktusen]

Feels like not many people here like Chris Cornell to much? Either in Soundgarden or Audioslave? :/

[Bloodlord]

LO/L!!!

You guys even know what heavy metal is?

1. Heavy Metal does not contain any growl.

2."Heavy Metal is teh ownage.

Dimmu Borgir.
Children of Bodom.
In Flames.
Ministry.
Lamb of God.
"

Of those bands none is heavy metal.
1st. You know, you can't really say which is which.
2nd. I didn't say that they were Heavy Metal.
I'm pretty sure he can tell which metal style it is.

[Forumtroll]

Bla bla bla...
1st. You know, you can't really say which is which.
2nd. I didn't say that they were Heavy Metal.
I'm pretty sure he can tell which metal style it is.
I wouldn't bet too much on it, since the whole metal genre is sounding abit the same and different songs are different genre, so I say would say but I won't since I would get banned for it.

Btw, according to iTunes and some shitty sites I found on Google some of the songs made by the bands I wrote was classified as Heavy Metal.


"Wall of text crits You for *4353*."
"You die."

Stop swearing, last warning. Note: Even using * to cover up swearing still means it's there and it's implied swearing, don't do that either.

[Stevie]

Dimmu Borgir. bLACk
Children of Bodom. deAth
In Flames. Death/influunce of trsh
Ministry. nevah herd but no hevy metal coz i knop all heavy shiit sdude
Lamb of God. sane as abov
"

[Blooper]

Wich "Rock,Metal~~" Concert have ya been to?

Who going to Iron Maiden concert? 17-25th November? (Sweden)
Me myself going on my first rock,metal concert now 17th november in globen

[Stevie]

iron maiden stadium 2003, ullevi 2005
sweden rock festival 04
europe 05
loads of local shit n stuff
nightwish 05
some other stuff...

yeh im goin to maiden, ofc...

[Stern]

I'm more of an indie person, I don't mind other genres of music, rock music is also good, but heavy metal? Naah.
Same here. I do like some of the "heavy metal" bands from the 70s, like Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin, and I also like some of the more alternative bands from the latter years, like Rage Against the Machine etc, that's because I admire their creativity and musical ability. I also like a few grunge bands like Alice in Chains and Nirvana, but I'm mostly into the whole pop/rock kind of music.
I can't say I even like Sabbath, I like Pink Floydd, I do also like Rage Againts because I thought they're style of music was unique, and I can say I'm a Nirvana fan, although the massive hype of Smells Like Teen Spirit which, in my view was Nirvana's and eventually Kurt Cobains downfall, always being made to play the same song over and over must really drive you insane.

I like bands along the lines of Chili Peppers, Muse (Which is my favorate band because of Matt Bellamy's very unique voice), Linkin Park, The Fratellis etc, I'm not gonna bother listing all the bands I like to listen too, my music sence is more wider than most people, if it sounds unique and it gets my foot moving to the tune, then I'll like it.

[Stevie]

Black Sabbath, Zeppelin and Deep Purple are reffered to as "Classic Hard Rock".

Pink Floyd are reffered to as classic proggressive or just prog rock.

:)

Yeah Pink Floyd are ace, really like them. never understood these bands though; Nirvana, red hot... , rage... o.o

oh and btw, forgot to answer to this;

"Btw, according to iTunes and some sites I found on Google some of the songs made by the bands I wrote was classified as Heavy Metal."

The MP3 information is written by the rippers who often dont have a clue of what they are talking about. I once found "Black Sabbath - R&B"... -.-

Don't swear.

[Kaktusen]

I don't like RHCP and Nirvana why?

RHCP: just bad music, overrated and to much commercial about them.

Nirvana: also overrated, Cobain don't play guitar good, same with the rest of the band on their instruments. Yes Cobain had a great voice but why don't I like him singing? Couse he sound the same all the time and he didn't use his voice the way he could do.


And RATM is good, why? Couse they got Morello, Tim C and Brad. I don't really like Zach as a singer but his sound fits to ratm. Though I prefer to listen to audioslave (band members of ratm with singer from soundgarden, Chris Cornell)



And I would also like to say that tool is the best progressive rock band, no band got a chance to challange them. :happy:

[Beex]

Dimmu Borgir. bLACk
Children of Bodom. deAth
In Flames. Death/influunce of trsh
Ministry. nevah herd but no hevy metal coz i knop all heavy shiit sdude
Lamb of God. sane as abov
"
It's thrash, not trash.

[Kaktusen]

In flames play Gothenburg Metal and melodic death metal.

I'm also happy that this thread started, I was quite afraid we wouldn't have any discussions here. Good job :yeah:

[Forumtroll]

Dimmu Borgir. bLACk
Children of Bodom. deAth
In Flames. Death/influunce of trsh
Ministry. nevah herd but no hevy metal coz i knop all heavy shiit sdude
Lamb of God. sane as abov
"
According to Wikipedia it's like this:
Dimmu Borgir = Symphonic black metal, Melodic black metal (early)
Children of Bodom = Power metal, Melodic death metal, Melodic black metal
In Flames = Melodic Death Metal, Heavy Metal
Ministry = Industrial Metal
Lamb of God = Thrash Metal

Not very much was right was it?

And BTW I can promise you, YOU DO NOT KNOW ALL HEAVY METAL BANDS ON THIS ROUND BALL WE CALL EARTH!

[Danne Weman]

I don't like RHCP and Nirvana why?

RHCP: just bad music, overrated and to much commercial about them.

Nirvana: also overrated, Cobain don't play guitar good, same with the rest of the band on their instruments. Yes Cobain had a great voice but why don't I like him singing? Couse he sound the same all the time and he didn't use his voice the way he could do.
RHCP is a really good band, no doubt about that. YOU think it's bad music, but that's your opinion, you can't just make statements like that. They've got a pretty damn unique sound which and their earlier albums aren't very commercial.

And Nirvana made good music aswell. Simple yet so good, that's actually very hard, to make something really good out of something very simple. It doesen't matter that Kurt Cobain couldn't solo like Hendrix, he wrote great lyrics and had a very unique voice.

[Greldin]

Dimmu Borgir. bLACk
Children of Bodom. deAth
In Flames. Death/influunce of trsh
Ministry. nevah herd but no hevy metal coz i knop all heavy shiit sdude
Lamb of God. sane as abov
"
According to Wikipedia it's like this:
Dimmu Borgir = Symphonic black metal, Melodic black metal (early)
Children of Bodom = Power metal, Melodic death metal, Melodic black metal
In Flames = Melodic Death Metal, Heavy Metal
Ministry = Industrial Metal
Lamb of God = Thrash Metal

Not very much was right was it?

And BTW I can promise you, YOU DO NOT KNOW ALL HEAVY METAL BANDS ON THIS ROUND BALL WE CALL EARTH!
Seems to me like he got everything right. :rolleyes:

[Slusker Svensson]

Eh...
I have to agree with Forumtroll...
It's quite ahrd to detirmine what song is what genre when talking about metal bands in general..
But hipstiff it doesn't sound like you know what you're talking 'bout

[Forumtroll]

....

Seems to me like he got everything right. :rolleyes:
Black Metal and Symphonic Black Metals is NOT the same thing.

[Kaktusen]

blablabla...
RHCP is a really good band, no doubt about that. YOU think it's bad music, but that's your opinion, you can't just make statements like that. They've got a pretty damn unique sound which and their earlier albums aren't very commercial.

And Nirvana made good music aswell. Simple yet so good, that's actually very hard, to make something really good out of something very simple. It doesen't matter that Kurt Cobain couldn't solo like Hendrix, he wrote great lyrics and had a very unique voice.
RHCP aren't that good, really! they first became big when they started to play live naked or with one sock on their penis, and that says quite alot. Some people like to say that flea is world best bassplayer also. But that's just soooo wrong! He only basslapp and that's quite easy actually. If you want a good bassist look for the one in tool, guaranted best one I know!

Nirvana might make simple music, and that's why they aren't good. I get bored on their songs after I hear them 10times, it shouldn't be like that.
Also the lyrics aren't that good, come on you heard some many better lyrics then nirvana's. Seriusly "rape me" wtf is that? And you need a good guitarist, that's what makes a band good.


Now you might say that there's so many fans of these bands but honestly, there is more fans of britney then there is metal fans.

[Granberg]

blablabla...
RHCP is a really good band, no doubt about that. YOU think it's bad music, but that's your opinion, you can't just make statements like that. They've got a pretty damn unique sound which and their earlier albums aren't very commercial.

And Nirvana made good music aswell. Simple yet so good, that's actually very hard, to make something really good out of something very simple. It doesen't matter that Kurt Cobain couldn't solo like Hendrix, he wrote great lyrics and had a very unique voice.
RHCP aren't that good, really! they first became big when they started to play live naked or with one sock on their penis, and that says quite alot. Some people like to say that flea is world best bassplayer also. But that's just soooo wrong! He only basslapp and that's quite easy actually. If you want a good bassist look for the one in tool, guaranted best one I know!

Nirvana might make simple music, and that's why they aren't good. I get bored on their songs after I hear them 10times, it shouldn't be like that.
Also the lyrics aren't that good, come on you heard some many better lyrics then nirvana's. Seriusly "rape me" wtf is that? And you need a good guitarist, that's what makes a band good.


Now you might say that there's so many fans of these bands but honestly, there is more fans of britney then there is metal fans.
Nirvanas music was perhpas simple but that doesn't mean it was bad. Curt has if u ask me on of the greatest voices ever and his lyrics was perfect for it. Take some time and lissen to "The man who sold the world" and dont judge it for its lack of cords.

[Kaktusen]

Nirvanas music was perhpas simple but that doesn't mean it was bad. Curt has if u ask me on of the greatest voices ever and his lyrics was perfect for it. Take some time and lissen to "The man who sold the world" and dont judge it for its lack of cords.
Well, thats the bad Cobain don't use his voice like he could. If you listen to Chris Cornell (my favorite) you hear him scream and other stuff not just singing in the same tone through the whole song. And songs like "like a stone" also got quite few chords but it's still really good. (sry for audioslave examples :happy: )

[Danne Weman]

Things aren't always what they seem to be, don't judge songs like Rape Me because of its title. And yes, Flea is definitely overrated but he is still a good musician and he's pretty damn funky, and John Frusciante is a really, really good innovative guitarist. I mean, listed to Blood Sugar Sex Magik, he was like 19 on that record and plays totally sick things.

And you keep making statements based on your own values and thoughts, not on facts. For example "you need a good guitarist to make a good band" is your own opinion but you make it sound like it's pure fact. Look at some of the greatest bands of our time; The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Clash etc, neither of those bands have had any real über guitarists but they still made fucking awesome songs.

[Granberg]

And u dont need a great songer, as long he attract the lisseners.

[Kaktusen]

It's all my own statement, I can't speak for somebody else.

As I said flea is overrated, not that he's bad and you're saying the same thing.
Frusciante is a good guitarist, no question about it. I liked stadium arcadium (the song) for a while but later I stopped listen on it.

And as I said, rhcp became big first when they had live concert without clothes on their bodys. And that I don't like them.


When it comes to nirvana everybody know that Cobain got a great voice but as I said earlier he don't use it enough. That's the different between him and other singers. If you listen to bands like shinedown which is a pretty unknown band you will hear awesome vocals but maybe not to good drumming and bassplaying. And the guitar player is quite average. But what makes a big difference is that you don't get bored by their songs since they don't sound the same like other they've made. Also they made a acoustic cover of simple man. Now you might think -"a cover.. bad band" but if you take a great song like that from a well known band like lynrd skynrd and make it better, you need some badass singer. :happy:

[Stevie]

Umm. Symphonic black metal fits in the genre of black metal, right? And I'm not INTO black and such stuff so I don't know all the subgenres. Don't forget Wikipedia is weritten by people like us ;) I could go and write that 50 cent is power metal ;)

Also, I heard from some people that CoB is power metal, and everytime I hear that I just laugh my ass off. They ARE melodic death metal as it says, but far from Power Metal. One thing that distinguishes power metal from other metal genres is the often used high pitched voice, the continues melodies on the rythm part and basicly foten fast drums. Children of Bodom might fit into power metal IF they would change some things, as actually get a high pitched singer and not growler (the growler is pretty high pitched though).'
(I might mention some power metal bands for you, so you know what it is;
Helloween [pioneers], Sonata Arctica, Stratovarius, Blind Guardian, Hammerfall [Hammerfall are also having a great influence of Heavy Metal, so you could say Heavy/power])

Also In Flames is Death Metal with influence of heavy Metal, however if we would count influenses like that the list of every band would be way too long.
They are Death Metal. period.

And yes, I know hoe thrash is spelled, noticed my other mistakes in that post? ;)

Slusker; I know very much what I am talking about ;)

"And BTW I can promise you, YOU DO NOT KNOW ALL HEAVY METAL BANDS ON THIS ROUND BALL WE CALL EARTH!"
Trust me, I've heard 99% of the labeled heavy Metal bands, and some unsigned.

And it is pretty easy to distinguish Thrash from heavy, and power from death, and death from heavy, and black from heavy, etc.
You must learn to decide what genre it is by listening to the music, not reading an article on wikipedia or reading the file info on your downloaded MP3.

:rolleyes:

That was all my answers, sorry for possible spelling mistakes. Such things might occur, writing the post I did.

[Forumtroll]

Umm. Symphonic black metal fits in the genre of black metal, right? And I'm not INTO black and such stuff so I don't know all the subgenres. Don't forget Wikipedia is weritten by people like us ;) I could go and write that 50 cent is power metal ;)

Also, I heard from some people that CoB is power metal, and everytime I hear that I just laugh my ass off. They ARE melodic death metal as it says, but far from Power Metal. One thing that distinguishes power metal from other metal genres is the often used high pitched voice, the continues melodies on the rythm part and basicly foten fast drums. Children of Bodom might fit into power metal IF they would change some things, as actually get a high pitched singer and not growler (the growler is pretty high pitched though).'
(I might mention some power metal bands for you, so you know what it is;
Helloween [pioneers], Sonata Arctica, Stratovarius, Blind Guardian, Hammerfall [Hammerfall are also having a great influence of Heavy Metal, so you could say Heavy/power])

Also In Flames is Death Metal with influence of heavy Metal, however if we would count influenses like that the list of every band would be way too long.
They are Death Metal. period.

And yes, I know hoe thrash is spelled, noticed my other mistakes in that post? ;)

Slusker; I know very much what I am talking about ;)

"And BTW I can promise you, YOU DO NOT KNOW ALL HEAVY METAL BANDS ON THIS ROUND BALL WE CALL EARTH!"
Trust me, I've heard 99% of the labeled heavy Metal bands, and some unsigned.

And it is pretty easy to distinguish Thrash from heavy, and power from death, and death from heavy, and black from heavy, etc.
You must learn to decide what genre it is by listening to the music, not reading an article on wikipedia or reading the file info on your downloaded MP3.

:rolleyes:

That was all my answers, sorry for possible spelling mistakes. Such things might occur, writing the post I did.
I know what I'm listening too, if we say In Flames, many of their songs are classified as Heavy Metal and that's not just according too Wikipedia, and I used Wikipedia just because it is easier too find that starting iTunes and such.

And I'm going to say the same thing as I did before:
I did NOT say that the bands I wrote was Heavy Metal, And the genre of a band differs from song to song.

'Nuff said.

[Stevie]

I know what I'm listening too, if we say In Flames, many of their songs are classified as Heavy Metal and that's not just according too Wikipedia, and I used Wikipedia just because it is easier too find that starting iTunes and such.

And I'm going to say the same thing as I did before:
I did NOT say that the bands I wrote was Heavy Metal, And the genre of a band differs from song to song.

'Nuff said.
Lol. By who? In Flames are NOT classsified as Heavy Metal, and I for one know that!

As I said before, learn to listen what genre it is, don't read, and especially not on your MP3 file.
I once read that Iron Maiden was "Death Metal", according to a Mp3 file on winamp.

And sometimes Maiden was power metal and Dimmu Borgir classic rock.

"I know what I'm listening too", yes I hoped you would know but obviously not. Please, do me a favour, go to an In Flames gig (I've been there by the way, have you? ;) ) and tell the people in the queue how much In Flames is heavy metal. Most of 'em would just laugh their asses off! :)

As I do, I find your comments fun. :)

'Nuff said.

[Bloodlord]

1. Never trust what the different mediaplayers say about the genres. Mine still call Blood Red Throne jazz.

2. I'd say that Children of Bodom are some kind of Thrash metal with alot of keyboards. Anyways, it sucks.

3. Dimmu Borgir was melodic black metal before, now they're some kind of symphonic shit.

4. In Flames are MeloDeath/gothenburg metal.

[Kaktusen]

It's just fact that RHCP became big when they had nude concert. You can't deny that couse it's fact. Sure they made good music to but it's just not my kind of music, and I don't like it. They are also great musicians but they became big first when they had nude concerts. And that Flea get so much prices and shit for being the worlds greatest bassist sometimes piss me off. Still this is what I think, go listen to rhcp if you want...

And when it comes to nirvana I don't really think ur right on anything exept that smells like teen spirit is overrated. Maybe they were good on music business but that doesn't change their music at all.

Now listen to shinedown and stfu. :happy:

[Danne Weman]

Nevermind is very often mentioned as on top 10 lists on best records ever made in some of the most respected music magazines, you can't fight fact.

So, what're saying is basically that RHCP sold more than 10 million copies of Blood Sugar Sex Magik because they did a few nude concerts? Come on!

[Kaktusen]

Nevermind is very often mentioned as on top 10 lists on best records ever made in some of the most respected music magazines, you can't fight fact.

So, what're saying is basically that RHCP sold more than 10 million copies of Blood Sugar Sex Magik because they did a few nude concerts? Come on!
Well, their first album wasn't famous. After they started to make nude concert it sold. Pure facts don't try to say against me.

And britney or somebody simulair have sold most albums im quite sure of, atleast more then any rock band.

And as I said, nirvana is overrated. :happy:

[Stevie]

Umm... Stern, is this really the way to treat your members? Especially when you are aiming for a supported...

I mean, come on calling people retards and idiots just cause they don't like Nirvana is like... LMAO.

I don't 'dig' nNirvana. I've listened to many tracks (in junior my all peepz listened to Nirvana), and I have only thought they were 'OK'. And nothing special. So what, am I a retard now? Same goes with the other 2 bands mentioned. I'm just not into that kind of music so much.

Gosh, let people have their discussions!

As I have understood it the Tibia rules apply here as well. Please have a look at rule 2a:

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[Danne Weman]

Nevermind is very often mentioned as on top 10 lists on best records ever made in some of the most respected music magazines, you can't fight fact.

So, what're saying is basically that RHCP sold more than 10 million copies of Blood Sugar Sex Magik because they did a few nude concerts? Come on!
Well, their first album wasn't famous. After they started to make nude concert it sold. Pure facts don't try to say against me.

And britney or somebody simulair have sold most albums im quite sure of, atleast more then any rock band.

And as I said, nirvana is overrated. :happy:
Show me.

[Kaktusen]

Nevermind is very often mentioned as on top 10 lists on best records ever made in some of the most respected music magazines, you can't fight fact.

So, what're saying is basically that RHCP sold more than 10 million copies of Blood Sugar Sex Magik because they did a few nude concerts? Come on!
Well, their first album wasn't famous. After they started to make nude concert it sold. Pure facts don't try to say against me.

And britney or somebody simulair have sold most albums im quite sure of, atleast more then any rock band.

And as I said, nirvana is overrated. :happy:
Show me.
Since stuff like that isn't on any webpage it's hard to show in that way. But if your a big fan of rhcp you should know that they sold more cd's when they started to play nude then before. :happy:

[Stern]

Wasn't me, was my girlfriend.

Edit: I soppose that's another thing I'm not allowed to do while on TibiaNordic, so, no more posts drunk, no more posts with or from my girlfriend, and the third one which i don't know. :(

[Stern]

Uhm, my girlfriend was right in saying that Nirvana wasn't that popular before Nevermind came, infact most bands first albums aren't recognised until they make a major hit.

[Danne Weman]

Well, their first album wasn't famous. After they started to make nude concert it sold. Pure facts don't try to say against me.

And britney or somebody simulair have sold most albums im quite sure of, atleast more then any rock band.

And as I said, nirvana is overrated. :happy:
Show me.
Since stuff like that isn't on any webpage it's hard to show in that way. But if your a big fan of rhcp you should know that they sold more cd's when they started to play nude then before. :happy:
They started to sell more albums when John Frusciante joined the band. There's a difference in sales between the 2nd and 3rd album, of around 1.5 million copies, and between the 3rd and 4th around 8 million copies. Are you trying to make me believe that this ONLY happened due to nude concerts?

[Stern]

Funny how he thinks 9 albums wouldn't have been popular because of a nude concert.

[Milad]

@Danne
Well, like you say, in the end it all comes down to your own personal music taste. RHCP can be pretty fun in the beginning, but the more you listen to it the more you start to dislike it. Yeah sure, maybe their earlier albums are pretty good but their later albums sound the same to me, except for a few tracks, which they of course release as singles.
Personally I get the feeling that if you're new to this whole "rock n roll" thing you start with RHCP, but the more you get involved and start searching for more(and better) music you forget about RHCP and never go back.

But hey, that's just my opinion. ;)

[Kaktusen]

It's not only couse they started to play nude, but many girls got attracted. My mum told me that she and her friends bought some albums just because they were hot. And I don't think they're the only one who did that. But ofcourse it's because their music to. But most of the female fans started to like them because they started to play nude. They stopped with that now I think? :happy:

[Danne Weman]

@Danne
Well, like you say, in the end it all comes down to your own personal music taste. RHCP can be pretty fun in the beginning, but the more you listen to it the more you start to dislike it. Yeah sure, maybe their earlier albums are pretty good but their later albums sound the same to me, except for a few tracks, which they of course release as singles.
Personally I get the feeling that if you're new to this whole "rock n roll" thing you start with RHCP, but the more you get involved and start searching for more(and better) music you forget about RHCP and never go back.

But hey, that's just my opinion. ;)
I don't even really like RHCP particularly much, I'm just defending them as a band because they are talented and great musicians. Same goes for Nirvana, I'm not a huge fan at all, I've only heard the songs you sent me, which I like, yeah, but I didn't exactly fall in love. I'm defending them because they meant a lot to modern music.

[Stern]

@Danne
Well, like you say, in the end it all comes down to your own personal music taste. RHCP can be pretty fun in the beginning, but the more you listen to it the more you start to dislike it. Yeah sure, maybe their earlier albums are pretty good but their later albums sound the same to me, except for a few tracks, which they of course release as singles.
Personally I get the feeling that if you're new to this whole "rock n roll" thing you start with RHCP, but the more you get involved and start searching for more(and better) music you forget about RHCP and never go back.

But hey, that's just my opinion. ;)
I don't even really like RHCP particularly much, I'm just defending them as a band because they are talented and great musicians. Same goes for Nirvana, I'm not a huge fan at all, I've only heard the songs you sent me, which I like, yeah, but I didn't exactly fall in love. I'm defending them because they meant a lot to modern music.
Agreed.

And how you can't liked Snow (Hey Oh) by Chili's is beyond me.

[Stevie]

It is obviously all about taste! How you can not like any Iron Maiden record is beyond me, but still people do, and I respect that!

[Stern]

I like some Iron Maiden music, I just don't listen too it often.

[Dennis]

Someone heard Atreyu?

[Kaktusen]

I just don't get how people like nirvana so much and say they're the best grunge band. Couse i'm a big fan of both Alice in Chains and Soundgarden. So that made me feel really bad about nirvana. And about the same thing with rhcp, just the fact that they are so overrated. If you like their music you should like rage against the machine alot more. :happy:

[Dennis]

Ratm is good! :yeah:

[Stern]

I like rage against the machine.

Nirvana just revolutionized grunge music, and possibily other genres too, the song was inspirational, but then, smells like teen spirit came along and was over played.

I enjoyed In Utero.

[Granberg]

It's fun that Smells like teen spritit became such a huge hit... af al Nirvana songs thats the one I disslike most.

Take a look at this from their live concert, Unplugged in New york. Good I love this song.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQZrPVaZabU

[Stern]

Man who sold the world is probably the best cover of a song I have ever heard, Nirvana Unplugged was probably the best performance I have ever seen a band do live (minus Muse, who seem to be better live than they do in the studio).

[Kaktusen]

I didn't really like that song, I actually got bored of it when I listen to it the first time?

I actually got whole nirvanas unplugged performance and I think it's sooooo overrated. Why not listen to alice in chains unplugged performance? It's alot better. And alice in chains were alot more revolutionizing then nirvana, same thing with soundgarden, or atleast soundgarden made alot greater music. If you ask me that is. ;)

[Kyox]

So what genre is In Flames? ;p

[Rullis]

ROCK-ZANDO?

[Scratcha]

So what genre is In Flames? ;p
Well. IS Metalcore/Numetal, was Melodic Death Metal/Gothenburg Death.

[Hex]

I like In Flames, Muse, Dope, Tool and of course my favourites, Nightwish and Hammerfall <3

[Ludd3]

I like Nightwish,bon jovi,u2 :yeah:

[Wezzli]

In Flames is a popgroup!

[Kaktusen]

In Flames is a popgroup!
they play melodeath :rolleyes:

[Seppuku]

Banned for spam posting, can't be bothered to have him spam all over the forums right now. This is also a warning to all.

[Wezzli]

In Flames is a popgroup!
they play melodeath :rolleyes:
meloshutthefuckup?

Come clarity is pop.
Soundtrack to your escape is almost a bit industrial and melodic, but still not death nor black.
Reroute to remain is basically just regular metal.
Clayman is close to it.
Colony is it.
Like everything before Colony

[Kaktusen]

In Flames is a popgroup!
they play melodeath :rolleyes:
meloshutthefuckup?

Come clarity is pop.
Soundtrack to your escape is almost a bit industrial and melodic, but still not death nor black.
Reroute to remain is basically just regular metal.
Clayman is close to it.
Colony is it.
Like everything before Colony

http://krangwobbelracing.mine.nu/upload/05%20-%20Flesh%20And%20The%20Power%2 0It%20Holds.mp3

Smaka på den

[Stern]

Didn't see him do it, and if you mess with my admin notes again I'll ban you.

[Wezzli]

Didn't see him do it, and if you mess with my admin notes again I'll ban you.
I'll do it everytime you deserve it.

How hard is it to fix that glitch anyway?

[Wezzli]

This is the English section of the boards, obay the rules.

I'd like to see the source where that information came from.

Melodic deathmetal might not have that big of a connection to the real deathmetal genre, which is silly, when the music doesn't really resemble with deathmetal at all. Even worse is that they shortened melodic deathmetal to melodeath, it looks emo, like your hair.

I mean, it's the music itself that determines what genre it should be pinned to. Not even the artists themselves can decide what genre the music is, because in that case i'll start a deathmetal band and claim it to be R'n'B with influences from dansband. They might want to tell the listeners what their interpretation of the deal is, but it's not facts then.

Just becasue some wikipediawhore decided that the music is to be called melodeath, doesn't mean that it's 100% true anyway. That won't change even if god himself names the genre melodeath.

In fact, how the hell can you claim its melodeath, who decided and where is the written rule for how the music has to sound to be melodeath. Could it just be that there's really no constant for this? You can't really say that theres no doubt about it, because there is. These questions are all about interpretation

[Kaktusen]

wezzli, that's just how it is, they sound melodeath and therefor they play melodeath, sure some songs are harder but overall it's a melodeath band. or you might wanna say it's a gbgmetal band but that's not really a sound.

[Wezzli]

wezzli, that's just how it is, they sound melodeath and therefor they play melodeath, sure some songs are harder but overall it's a melodeath band. or you might wanna say it's a gbgmetal band but that's not really a sound.
I love how you managed to not read half of my post.

[Bloodlord]

In Flames havent sounded melodeath for years. They just sound pretty gayed up nowadays. Awesome live, though.

[Wezzli]

In Flames havent sounded melodeath for years. They just sound pretty gayed up nowadays. Awesome live, though.
ye, saw them twice, pretty good.

[Hex]

In Flames menz!
CoB is Pwnz0r aswell, but nothing beats Nine Inch Nails and Nightwish <3

[Stevie]

I love how people have invented new genres...

Are you sure you like new Nightwish? ;)

[Kaktusen]

I love how people have invented new genres...

Are you sure you like new Nightwish? ;)
Nightwish aren't big favorite of mine.

Have anybody heard Skunk Anansie (skin) here? Honestly... I have never heard a female sing like that in whole my life, wow!

[Stevie]

I love how people have invented new genres...

Are you sure you like new Nightwish? ;)
Nightwish aren't big favorite of mine.

Have anybody heard Skunk Anansie (skin) here? Honestly... I have never heard a female sing like that in whole my life, wow!
I asked that because they switched singer and I doubt I want to hear it. :P

[Ceax]

Metallica, have all music .. rock,metal, heavy metal.

[Xaya Heartless]

Punk rock FTW!
Dropkick Murphys, Misfits, Blink 182, Battle Scarred and many more :)

[Olle]

Steel Dragon is a nice band, quite old band tho

[Apollo's Knight]

Im still new to rock/metal etc.~

But some of the bands that I think are good:

-Mastodon
-Children of Bodom
-Disturbed
-System of a Down
-Dope
-Rammstein

[Noobaz]

Im still new to rock/metal etc.~

But some of the bands that I think are good:

-Mastodon
-Children of Bodom
-Disturbed
-System of a Down
-Dope
-Rammstein
Ah.. So you're what I call "sissy". ;>

[Apollo's Knight]

If that is what you would like to call me then knock yourself out.
Go wild. :yeah:

[Svant]

System of a Down
Papa Roach
Slipknot

[Noobaz]

Seriously, how the hell can you call those band "rock/metal bands"..?!

They are nothing but a bunch of pathetic lowlifers that emo kids can relate to!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_metal#Brutal_death_metal READ IT AND LEAK SALT WATER!!!

Bwahahaha!!

[Apollo's Knight]

Yeah yeah.... I guess Im emo then. :happy:

[Noobaz]

Yeah yeah.... I guess Im emo then. :happy:
Indeed you are; using smilies and what not..!

[Stevie]

Noobaz; I've listened to rock for the major part of my life and I consider myself very interested in it. And still I don't listen to your shit. Would you suggest metal didn't exist before 1990? :rolleyes:

Ah.. So you're what I call "poser". ;>

Apollo; I don't really like your music except for SOAD wich is listenable and some songs even good. I saw Mastodon live once and I hated it.

However, taste as taste. ;D

[Stern]

Im still new to rock/metal etc.~

But some of the bands that I think are good:

-Mastodon
-Children of Bodom
-Disturbed
-System of a Down
-Dope
-Rammstein
Ah.. So you're what I call "sissy". ;>
Ah, so you're what I would call a "noob".

If you honestly believe that Apollo's Knight is a "sissy" or even an "emo" then you should honestly go buy a gun, put it to your mouth and blow the back of your head off because honestly, there is NOTHING emo about those bands, now if he would have said Bullet for my Valentine or something along those lines, sure he's a little bit emo but that doesn't mean is classed as an emo because music style doesn't classify you as anything.

Learn what "emo" actually means before you go around calling people it, douche.

[Noobaz]

Im still new to rock/metal etc.~

But some of the bands that I think are good:

-Mastodon
-Children of Bodom
-Disturbed
-System of a Down
-Dope
-Rammstein
Ah.. So you're what I call "sissy". ;>
Ah, so you're what I would call a "noob".

If you honestly believe that Apollo's Knight is a "sissy" or even an "emo" then you should honestly go buy a gun, put it to your mouth and blow the back of your head off because honestly, there is NOTHING emo about those bands, now if he would have said Bullet for my Valentine or something along those lines, sure he's a little bit emo but that doesn't mean is classed as an emo because music style doesn't classify you as anything.

Learn what "emo" actually means before you go around calling people it, douche.
Riiight.. Since when did I refer to the term, "emo", in that post..? Who's making false accusations here? You or me? ;>

Nan-ana-na-nana... SERVED!

[Apollo's Knight]

They are nothing but a bunch of pathetic lowlifers that emo kids can relate to!
Yeah yeah.... I guess Im emo then. :happy:
Indeed you are~
It was known what you were talking about Mr.Cool.

[Noobaz]

They are nothing but a bunch of pathetic lowlifers that emo kids can relate to!
Yeah yeah.... I guess Im emo then. :happy:
Indeed you are~
It was known what you were talking about Mr.Cool.
I never referred to you, as an emo kid. You said you were an emo kid, I just agreed.

[Isara Warrior]

I <3 rock music! Poland rox! Myslowitz!

[[caroline]]

Say Anything
The Juliana Theory

Few new bands, :)

[Kyox]

In flames for ever! <3
@ Noobaz, I think you should check up what rock is.. Rock equals death metal? No man..

[Stevie]

Rock:
http://www.rockmusic.org/gnr/fotos/grupo/f_slash04.jpg

Death Metal:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/DavidVincentWOA2006.jpg/230px-DavidVincentWOA2006.jpg

Who gets the hot chicks? :D

[Saint Louis]

rock fo sho...

[Stevie]

Ofcourse. :D I miss my hair. :( I'm letting it long again.

[Saint Louis]

damn straight, if you don't i'll have to come over there and kill you.

Sweden accepts long haired men... united states unfortunately doesn't . They think its bad grooming, But if i was in a rocking band, it would be perfectly acceptable.

[Stevie]

I am. Day 35 of my project right now. I expect to be long in aboput 965 days. :) Well, get in a band. It's more exciting. Chicks and booze... What else can you ask for. But, aren't you in a band?

[Spinnix]

Wezzli showed me Meshuggah, and i'm in love. \,,/

[Bengtsson]

What happened to the good old rock like,
Love/Hate
Aerosmith
Led Zeppelin
AC/DC
Think Lizzy
Guns N' Roses
Iron Maiden
The Who

Those are the rock bands according to my books.

[Stevie]

What happened to the good old rock like,
Love/Hate
Aerosmith
Led Zeppelin
AC/DC
Think Lizzy
Guns N' Roses
Iron Maiden
The Who

Those are the rock bands according to my books.

Well rock is a wide genre, but some of those bands are still around, as you might know it's my main génre. ;)

[Bengtsson]

Well rock is a wide genre, but some of those bands are still around, as you might know it's my main génre. ;)

Yes, my point was they haven't been mentioned in the thread yet.
Most of the bands I saw there doesn't qualify as rock. So no more off topic in this thread.
Rock ≠ Metal

[Stevie]

I'm pretty positive I've mentioned at least Iron Maiden in this thread, so look again. And in the previous thread I posted a picture of Slash who was the guitarist of Guns 'n Roses, so check again.

Actually, Metal is a part of the Rock genre. :)

[Slash]

bump!

Nirvana
pearl jam
Sound garden
Alice in chains
Dinosaur Jr
The Lemonheads
Foo Fighters
Beck
Metalica
Queens of the stone age

(all kind of grunge!)

edit: ofc Led Zeppelin and AC DC acwell ;)